The Compton Mystery

This is one of the reasons that I have finally gotten my dna done.

My 5th Great Grandfather is William Compton

He was born about 1730 and died in 1817 in Petersfield, Hampshire, England. He was married to Elizabeth Scut and together they had 5 children with their son, John being the line that I will eventually be born into.

My mystery is that I do not know who his parents are. This means I could be from one of two Compton trees — a regular family with a regular life or I could come from the family that has / had a castle, an adopted Royal bastard child, a brother that married his adopted sister, several children that might or might not be a Compton or maybe the Stable boy. Then there is the wife that ran away to France and lived there. Now which branch would you want?

Now there are people that list his father as a Thomas Compton and ties us in with the wilder family but there is no paper proof that I have ever seen. To me, without paper record you really aren’t sure.

This is where I hope that dna will be able to help me. If I can find someone who connects me with their Compton line back around 1730, then maybe just maybe it will solve this little mystery.

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First of all, Happy New Year. I am hoping that this year I can work more on here and the genealogy site as well.

Well, Nancie fulfilled my dream of the last few years — she bought me this:

And I know that some will wonder why I need dna when I know where most people come from but there are a lot of questions that I hope to find answers to. As well, I can end up finding distance relatives.

One of the questions relates to the Compton family. Years ago, I met a woman who lives in Victoria, BC – we have a lot of common relations but not the one that connects us. Thee is one person that would link us — but while some list his father as being one person there is not really any proof and I want proof before I link to him. If I could get that proof somehow it would confirm his brothers and sisters as well as link to a most interesting group of Comptons including a possible illegitimate royal baby adopted by a Compton. And then the story after it is unbelievable.

And my Swedish vs Swede-Finn side — From the Swedish side, I know that I am partly from Backman (Grandpa) but from my Swede-Finn side I also have Backman in the mix — are the 2 Backman branchs linked somehow?

And where do either side come from — what other dna lurks in my blood?

I will never have the pure dna as I could never convenience either Dad or Mom to do it for me. But whatever I get will be interesting. I wonder what my blood will show — maybe I am a reltive of Harry and will be at the wedding.

Family Lore — Are we Witches????

There is a Family Lore that we could possibly decedents of the Witches of Salem through our Beach Family Line.

In 1653, there was a woman that was named Goody Knapp who was hung from the gallows and then her body removed and taken down to be examined by several women. It was said to be strange sight was this group of 7 women gathered around to “examine a naked woman”.

This is where our relative comes in, with a little confusion.

Mary Staples was one of the woman and she was later accused of being a witch herself. The confusing part is that no one really knows which Mary Staples it was as there were 2 Mary Staples – my 9th Great Grandmother and her daughter, Mary who was married into the Beach Family to John Beach.

What happened is that one of the founders of Connecticut Colony, Roger Ludlow accused Mary Staples of making “a trade of lying” and that “she was probably a witch.” This is found in court papers from 1654.

She was also accused of being good friends with Goody Knapp by Roger Ludlow. This resulted in Thomas Staples (9th Great Grandfather) filing a lawsuit again Roger for slander. Thomas won the case, and the celebrated Roger Ludlow was fined 15 pounds.

There have been other stories about that it could have been that daughter, Mary that was the accused but most of the stories are about Mary, wife of Thomas.

So, maybe people have it wrong — I am not a “”*itch” but a Witch!!!!

Jane Thompson, my 3rd Great Grandmother . . .

Jane is my 3rd Great Grandmother and while there is interesting information about her from old family documents, it is hard to find out if it is true or made up information.

First, her last name is spelt 2 ways — Thompson or Thomson. From most of the information that I have read, it is Thompson.

There is also confusion about where she was born — Ireland or Scotland. Most of the Canadian Census Records say Ireland and the Family Lore is that she was born in Scotland and was the cousin of Lord Kelvin Thomson, a famous Scottish mathematical physicist but he is listed as being born in Belfast, Northern Ireland.

While there is not a date for their wedding, Jane and Thos Rutledge married in the late 1830’s as their first son, Robt Rutledge was born in Ulster, Northern Ireland in 1840. It was sometime after his birth that the family moved to Canada. I wonder if any other children had been born in Ireland as the next child born was 4 years later in Canada. There were 7 children that there are records for and they were all born in Bolton, Ontario. Sadly, 3 of the children died before at very young ages.

Thos passed away in 1870 while Jane lived onto 1898.

They, along with several children were buried in the Bolton Anglican and Methodist Cemetery which went into disrepair after the opening of the Laurel Hill Cemetery.

In the Centennial Year of 1972, the town of Bolton repaired the cemetery and put headstones up on a wall at the entrance. Unfortunately, Jane’s headstone was not found but Thos, Christopher, Margaret and Thomas James were located.

How many Names make up me?

While, yes I am a Rutledge but how many other names flow into me from my past. According to the Stats for my website, there are currently 1,227 unique surnames. Now I am not related to all of them, I am related, one way or another to a lot of them. These are within 1,633 families.

First, I will talk about the English Side (My Dad)

What I find most interesting is that my Dads’ side is that the Rutledges are coming from Northern Ireland with a splash of Scottish. The rest are mostly English from Yorkshire or the Sussex regions of England.

The more distant relatives on the English side of my family came to the US from England — some stayed in the US while others travelled to Canada. I have cousins that are all over the world — Australia, USA, England, through Canada (Manitoba and Ontario mostly) and probably still in Northern Ireland.

One interesting fact is that I have a 5th Great Grandfather that was from Germany. You can read about him here — Descendant of a Hessian Solider

So it is probably true what those ancestry commercials say about everyone coming from all over the world.

Now my Scandinavian Side (My Mom’s side)

From my Mom I get my Swedish and Swede-Finn genes and names. The last names are fascinating because up until the early, I believe 19th century, last names changed with each generation.

An example would be myself and my brother — his last name would have been Waltersson and I would have been Waltersdotter.

There are a couple of names that are the same in both the Swedish side and the Swede-Finn side, especially the name Backman (which was my Grandfather’s last name). I find that I have several Backman that are in my Snabb (Swede-Fin) family but I have never found any connection between the branches.

Here is a photo that shows from me back to my GG-Grandparents — see how each generation gets bigger.

Last Names

That is all for now, hopefully my brain will function well enough that I will be able to do this more often that I have in the last few months. Fingers crossed.

Descendant of a Hessian Soldier

Through my Beach Family line which is (click on picture to make it larger):

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Johann Friederich Luecke aka John Frederick Luke was my 5th Great Grandfather, born in Germany.

For those that do not know a Hessian Soldier is the term given to the 18th-century German auxiliaries contracted for military service by the British government, who found it easier to borrow money to pay for their service than to recruit its own soldiers.

The soldiers got their name from the German state of Hesse. They were used in several combat roles, including in the Irish Rebellion of 1798, but they are most widely associated with combat operations in the American Revolutionary War (1775-1783).

Photo of a Hessian Soldier: hessiansoldier

This I find interesting because being part Irish (through the Rutledge / Elliot line) probably fought in the Irish Wars and I know that there were Beach family members that fought in the American Revolutionary War for the Americans.

In trying to find out more about him, I used one of the most important tools — google. From this I came across a woman in New Brunswick, who is also related to him as he is her 3rd Great Grandfather. She is related to me as my 3 x cousin 2 times removed. Alice sent me a letter, along with an article she wrote and was published in the “The Hessians: Journal of the Johannes Schwalm Historical Association, Volume 9, 2006”

  • Johann Freidrich Luecke (John Frederick Luke) was born in 1757 in the village of Gross Else in the Duchy of Brunswick
  • He was part of the von Rhetz Regiment that was part of the 2nd Division of the Brunswick Army sent to North America in 1776
  • He and his fellow soldiers camped in Fort St. Anne, Canada where they trained in the winter and spring
  • He was believed to be part of the invasion of New York on June 1, 1777
  • there are Luke family papers that state he was involved in the both the Bennington and Saratoga but was more likely engaged in the fighting in the Battles of Freeman’s Farm and Bemis Heights
  • Brunswick Army Records report that he was a prisoner of war but unknown whereabouts. This usually means that he probably walked off the march and was take in as a servant with an American
  • Soon after he deserted, he is said to have been looking for a wife and found one in Betsey Stone, the daughter of Abel and Lydia Stone. It seems that both he and his future father-in-law may have been present during that fateful day in Saratoga where John was taken prisoner.
  • It is believed that he and Betsey married in 1778 but many researchers and family descendants have seached but a marriage record has never been found..
  • He lived in Windsor County, Vermont, USA from about 1779 to 1799 this being where most of his children were born.
  • Around 1800, John and his family moved to South Gower, Ontario, Canada. It may have been becauseof the Proclamation of the Lieutenant-Governor of Ontario, John Graves Simcoe, concerning the free land in Canada.
  • It is noted that John Luke settled in 1801, on Lot No 4, in the 4th Concession. He was a British solidier.
  • It is in this same area that the Beach Family also settled
  • They travelled between the US and Canada for the remaining days. Both John and Betsey are said to have died in Canada but it is not know where they are buried.
  • It is rumoured that they are buried in the South Gower Cemetery, but there is no listings for them on the burial records. A number of the Beach family line is buried there.
  • They are listed on a family headstone in the Amboy Cemetery, Amboy, Oswego County, New York.
  • John Frederick Luke

  • The monument was erected in about 1883, by Lewis D Luke about 40 years after the death of John Luke. The inscription for John and Betsey is:
  • Luke, John died 15 Dec 1839 AE 96 yrs

    Luke, Betsey his wife died 27 Jan 2854 AE90 yrs

    So, now I am not only English, Irish, Scottish on my Dad’s side, I have a little German as well.

    — Susan

    Oh and if you have read this far, it is interesting to know that the Headless Horseman might have been a Hessian Solider!

    The Year End . .

    this has been a sad year, so hopefully 2016 will be much better than 2015 was.

    This was the year that I lost 2 men in my life that were the only men that really made me realize that not all were jerks.

    The first was my Dad. It was a sudden and shocking end to the man that has always been there for me, no matter what I did — he was there. It has been 9 months and there are times that I will still feel my eyes water up and an ache in my heart that doesn’t seem to want to go away. But I realize that he is watching over me and will be there with open arms when my time comes.

    Then, I lost a best friend just a few weeks after my Dad. Doug was the husband of my best friend and was, like my Dad, a father figure to Nancie. He was a wonderful man who could make you laugh and cry at the same time. He was a wonderful husband and father as well as a Father to numerous kids over the years. A true heart of Gold.

    Both these deaths did throw me for a little loop and I put most things on hold for awhile. Family Tree just didn’t seem all that important to write about, but as time has gone on, I have written about a few things including the Actor that is a distant branch of my tree.

    So, unfortunately, the Stats are small — not a large jump in the number of people but mostly working in adding dates, burial locations, etc.

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    although you don’t always know how the tree will grow in a new year — this I am sure of — I am getting a new little branch this month (if he decides to come on time)

    So, hopefully it will be a wonderful new year for family — close and distant this year.

    Love always

    Susan

    Slingsby Lane — A Compton Branch

    the Slingsby Line is through my Great-Great Aunt Lizzie Compton, daughter of William Walter Compton and Jane Franks. Upon the death of Jane, William remarried and had my Great-Grandfather, Charles Compton.

    Lizzie had a interesting life — in England she married Samuel Slingsby. Together, they had 3 daughters. Sadly, Samuel died around 1892. Lizzie then married his brother, Harry Slingsby, with whom she had 4 more children. With all her children and husband, she moved to Canada — Toronto, Ontario in 1905.

    Harry was killed in a Tram accident in 1911, leaving Lizzie to raise her children alone.

    Slingsby Lane is named after one of these children, and the story of how it came about is a wonderful thing that is findagrave & genealogy.

    Sapper Walter Samuel Slingsby was with the Canadian Royal Engineers. His death occurred when two lorries collided on a beach. He was buried in Brookwood Cemetery, Surrey, England.

    I had found the memorial for Sapper Walter Samuel Slingsby and had him linked to his family and added a small bio about his death. When he died, he left behind a wife and 6 small children.

    In the summer of 2012, I received a note on my findagrave page, asking me to contact a man at the Toronto City Hall as they wanted to get permission to name a lane after him.

    Hi Susan,

    I believe you may be able to help me. I am looking for any next of kin to Samuel Walter Slingsby or Viola Slingsby.

    My name is Brian Hall, I work with the City of Toronto and we would like to name a new residential lane to honour Samuel Walter Slingsby of the Royal Canadian Engineers, who was killed in action during WWII on February 7, 1943. According to the Toronto Telegram, he lived on Connaught Avenue, Newtonbrook, (North York district of Toronto) leaving behind his wife Mrs. Viola Slingsby. I just noticed on this website he had 6 children.

    I saw your name and your connection to Samuel Walter Slingsby or Viola Slingsby. Is there anyone in your family that could e-mail us permission to name this new residential “Slingsby Lane”. I can give you more details if I receive a response.

    As I am not a direct relative, I forwarded the request to a great-niece, Caroline Katsios. Through Caroline, we were able to get ahold of several closer relatives, including the Grand-daughter of of Walter, Barb Sims and also Kelly Moore. It was through various emails, permission was granted and Slingsby Lane came into reality in late 2013.

    I have tried for months to get a photo, and finally thanks to another member of the Compton line, Dave Percy, I was sent the photo. Here is the location on google maps and then the photo of the sign.

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    And thanks to Dave:

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    So, through this little sign a family name will live on.

    And it is thanks to findagrave, International Wargraves Photography Project and genealogy that linked together myself, Caroline, Barb and Kelly.

    The Story of the Actor and his brother — Clothier Family Line

    through our Family Line we are related to the Clothier Family. It is not a direct relationship, but one of the many branches in our Tree.

    A little Background:

    The Lines cross through Mercy May Clothier — she was married to my 5th Great Uncle, Mahlon Beach. Mercy May is the 3rd Great Aunt of 2 Clothier Brothers. So, while our branches do intersec we are not directly related.

    The brothers are: John George Clothier and his older brother, Robert Allan Clothier.

    Now comes the interesting part about Robert — turns out that he played Relic on the TV show The Beachcombers.

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    He was not only a great actor, but he was a Member of the Royal Canadian Air Force. He was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross on December 5, 1944. He was the sole survivor of a plane crash at Boundary Bay, BC. Robert was the pilot of a Mitchell bomber that crashed on takeoff. Three other died but while Robert survived, he was severely injured with a broken back. He was paralyzed from the waist down for two years.

    Sadly, his younger brother was also a pilot in a Bomber Command and he died in Wales on March 5–6, 1945.

    The story of his death, is a sad one.

    It is said that he was on a flight and they were mistaken for a German bomber and shot down. Apparently, with the Germans’ short on fuel for planes, they would follow the Canadian/English planes back to where they were about to land and then fire at them. It was at this time, that although he did not need to be on the run, F/L Clothier was a pilot on a plane that had just done a raid and was heading home. It is recorded that 32 planes were lost or damaged over England that night.

    He is buried in Rockfield (St. Cenhedlon) Churchyard, Whales.

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    Robert was still recovering from his near-death crash when his brother was killed in what could only have felt like a senseless death as the war was almost over at that point in time.

    But another family branch that was effected by war.

    Anders Snabb — A distant cousin in Finland

    This is the story of my cousin 3x removed who was a member of the White Guard in Finland. And what happened after his death to his family.

    Anders Johan Andersson Snabb

    First, I should explain what the White Guard is.

    According to Wikipedia:

    The White Guard (Finnish: Suojeluskunta, plural: Suojeluskunnat, Finland-Swedish: Skyddskår, literary translated as Protection/Defense Corps) was a voluntary militia that emerged victorious over the socialist Red Guard as part of the Whites in the Finnish Civil War of 1918. The Finnish term Suojeluskunta has received many different approximations in English, including the literal translation Protection Corps, Security Guard, Civic Guards, National Guard, White Militia, Defence Corps, Protection Guard, and Protection Militia. They were generally known as the White Guard in the West due to their opposition to the communist Red Guards.

    This is a story I received from a distant cousin, Mona Britwin.

    He had already lost his older brother in a drowning accident, while he was fishing with his father, and his half-sisters had married into other families. Jossas Anders did inherit the whole Snabb home and accompanying lands. That was a lot of land in Björköby at that time.

    Jossas Anders — passport photo:

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    Family Home, built by his Father in 1909, photo from about 1915.

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    The family was patriotic which means Jossas Anders was in the “White guard” and in the Finnish civil war fighting for the “whites” against the “reds”.

    I don’t have the date that he joined, but by the age of 26, he had died in the battle in Vaskivesi, Finland in October 1918. Leaving behind a wife and 2 children. Sadly, the following year (1919) both his children died of scarlet fever, leaving their Mother and Grandmother alone in the family home.

    But with a big home and lands came many responsibilities. Jossas Cajs (his Mother) took over all duties inside the house and Lina (his wife) took over all the men’s work, such as plowing the fields and growing potatoes.

    The size of the fishing grounds you owned were proportional to how much land you owned. The landowner was supposed to go fishing with other landowners and then split the fish equally. Jossas Lina was now forced to go with the men on long fishing trips a long way out from our home island, quite a hard life.

    There is a photo where she is with five other fishermen in August 1924.

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    Despite losing a husband/son to the War, Lina and Cajs continued to be patriotic and sided with the “white” side, even giving the white guard a part of their land to practice shooting.

    Folklore Museum

    In Björköby, there is a Folklore Museum and there are a couple of photos as well as uniforms that were apparently worn by Anders. According to the story, you can see the bullet hole where he was shot and killed. The others in the photos are his wife and children.

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    Lastly, is the Monument for the Soldiers and also the family headstone. Both are located in the cemetery in Replot.

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    snabbheadstone