Which for me is nothing new. As most people with Ancestry know that when you do the dna you get these Thru Lines that give you possible dna relationships.
Well, I keep getting one for my 3rd Great Grandmother, Margery Robertson Beach. I have her marriage record to John Beach on 5 Jun 1850 • Bathurst, Ontario, Canada. They are the parents of Caroline Margery Beach who married Walter Dicks and had my Great-Grandmother, Annie Dicks Rutledge.
This is their marriage record:
Now here comes the confusion: I have never been able to find to find out information about who her parents were. Well, this name James E Robinson keeps coming up as a possible dna connection to me through her, with decendents from him being my possible 5 – 8th cousins.
The thing is that only one has a daughter names Margery and she has no information showing on her. I have written to a couple of the people but most have not been on ancestry for over 3 months.
Now, I know that John Beach died in 1873 and I have a photo of their headstone in the Beachburg cemetery that states she died in 1885 – no date and I have never found a death certificate for her. Also, her last name on the marriage record and the headstone says “Robertson” .
So, I decided to do a search on family search for James E Robinson and see what came up. I found a marriage record for his daughter, Margaret Beach???? She married a John Brown on 24 of October 1884. She is listed as being 70 yrs old. Mine would have only been around 60. Now this is what really gets me wondering if this is her? Look at the witness:
It is my Great Grandfather, Walter Dicks and Great Grandmother, Caroline Margery Beach Dicks. The marriage takes place in the town where they lived: Ottawa, Ontario.
So, was her last name Robertson or Robinson??? As her parents are not listed on her marriage record – was she hiding from them? Was there an error on her marriage to John Beach? How am I truly related to the Robinson through my dna? Questions?? Questions??? Will I ever find the answers??
Laura (Lila) was the 2nd child and daughter of Robt. Rutledge and Ellen Elliott. There is confusion with her birth date as it is either 1872 or 1873, with my best guess as being 1872. Why you may asked?? I have not been able to find a birth record, but her Marriage record lists her birthdate as about 1872 but her death record has Jan 8 1873 – but her brother, Thomas was born Jan 24 1873, so I believe she was probably born in 1872. She is listed in many records as Lila Rutledge.
She married Dr Hugh McLean on May 16, 1901 in York, Ontario, Canada. It shows another strange comment about her birth date — it lists it as 1872 but says she was born in Bolton, England not Bolton, Ontario. Her parents had already had 1 child in Canada having married here so being born in England is totally wrong.
She and Hugh went on to have 4 children, including a daughter that was stillborn in 1903. Sadly she passed away on March 29th, 1912 of Dysentery. This then brings about the final mystery of Laura(Lila) Rutledge McLean. I have 2 separate newpaper articles about her death. The first one just says: St Thomas Times Page 8 c1 Died – Dr McLean Bereaved – Mr and Mrs W K Cameron were called to Guelph Friday morning owing to the sudden death of their sister-in-law, Mrs McLean, wife of Dr Hugh McLean, of that city. Mrs McLean was formerly Miss Laura Rutledge of Toronto. Besides her husband, three children survive.
I was also able to find a copy of her obituary which states where she is funeral and burial:
While this listed her being buried in Humberstone Cemetery, that cemetery is now called Overholt Cemetery . In contacting the cemetery, sadly there is no listing of her burial . Her husband and children moved to California where he remarried and had several more children. The 3 remaining children of Lila sadly died before I could be in touch with anyone to find where she was truly buried.
Francis Faudane aka Mary Frances aka Margaret Carmen Elliott is a distant cousin through my Elliott Line. She is my cousin 3 times removed. In researching this line, I discovered her story through another relative on ancestry.ca.
I hope that you find her as interesting as I did and I hope that the information is all in the correct order.
Francis was the third of eight children on Andrew Elliott and Ann Elizabeth Farnham, born on December 19, 1889 in Simcoe County, Ontario, Canada. She had somewhat sad start to her life, with her mother loosing a few children over the next few years. It was once she married and started having children of her own that she seemed to go slightly off the rails.
This is a photo of her a a puppy, year unknown
One of the first false identies that she had was with her first marriage to Jack Cromier on 22 Nov 1909 • Penetanguishene, Simcoe, Ontario, Canada, Although her birth record list her as “Francis Fandam Elliott” her marriage record shows her as Mary Francis.
She and Jack had 2 children. The first was a daughter, Ruth Alma was born in 1910 but by 1921, she was living with her Grandparents who took her in after Francis had put Ruth in a Convent. She also had a son who was born in 1915, 2 years before her husband Jack died. By 1921, according to the records, Maximilian (Max), age 6, was living the Arthur Beach family. This I am goig to look further into as Beach is another family line of mine.
Family info says at some point, Fanny simply disappeared. Since all of her children were other people in 1921, she must have left about 1919-1920, after the birth of Rex Wm. (Young) Meville. in Winchester, Dundas,
He was adopted by his mother’s aunt, Margaret (Maggie) Ann (Elliott) Meville & her husband Alexander Meville between birth and age 2. . In the 1921 Cens Rex was living with them as “Rex Young.” Although his last name was young, it is not known who his father was.
Although no record has been found as of Apr 2019. Fanny identified herself has Margaret Carman Cormier when she apparently married her 2nd husband. They had no chidren.
Fanny died in 1952 and is buried in the Perry Mount Park Cemetery, close to her sister, Doroty M Spittle. She buried there under the name Margaret Frances Lawrencebut her headstone says Frances Elliott Lawrence.
While I didn’t do a lot of things, it was certainly a year of adding living people rather than deceased this past year.
Nancie gave me an ancestry dna kit for Christmas 2017 and I got the results back in mid February of 2018. While I am still trying to figure out the many different results, I did get some wonderful and new family added to my life.
While it took a bit to figure out how to get the card, I was finally able to get this before the upgrade of my breakdown:
It was shortly after this that they updated my results and it was with these that i ended up meeting a few family members through my dna.
The first person that I was in contact with was a distant cousin from Australia that is part of my Snabb Family Line. My Grandmothers’ brother Anton Lenart Snabb had moved to Australia and sadly, he passed away in 1948. We did know that he had a daughter, but we did not know what had happened with her until I had found that she had passed away at a very young age. I knew that she had 1 daughter but it turns out that she had 2 and it was the 2nd daughter that was also using dna to search for her birth mother, my Great Uncles’ daughter.
What was really great was that we got to meet when it turns out that her and her husband had already planned a trip/tour up to BC / Alberta from Australia and we were able to meet up here in Vancouver for a few hours before they went back under.
Another Swede-Fin find was with the last name Foresman. My Great-Great Grandmother was Lena Sofia Israeldotter Forsman. Her father was Israel Johansson Forsman. His older brother was Simon Erik Johansson Forsman.
It is through these two gentlemen , that I found another distant cousin, Pierre Forsman. To quote him “Simon Erik J Forsman who was my grandfathers grandfather ” What is nice is that Pierre lives in Florida and travels back to the home land. Like today he posted a video of of driving in Replot, Länsi-Suomen Lääni, Finland. It is through these that I can see where my family came from.
The next was another great find. There was a dna match to a James Rutledge. Sadly it was a few months before he had logged in and got my message on ancestry. It turns out that he is my 2x half cousin. How is he a half cousin you may ask? We both share the same Great Grandfather, Robert Rutledge — me through his first wife, Annie Dicks and he through his 2nd wife, Georgina Gifford.
This was the first time that I was able to be in touch with a Rutledge family member that I did not grow up with. James sent me a few pictures and matching them up with the only photo that I had of my Great Grandfather, I belive it was photos of Robert with his 2nd wife, their daughter that had passed away as a baby and the son that James was descended from. This is the merged photos. What do you think?
There were others that I have been in touch with, but they were not into really doing researching of past family connections but more about where geographic locations. So while it was nice to speak to them, they eventually never asked or answered questions, but you never know about the future.
But dna is not the only way that you can find or locate family members. Next next round of new family members was via facebook.
The first was started when I was doing one of my google search for my Great Aunt Alice Adele Viktoria Backman as her headstone did not show a married name for her. I came across a family tree that listed her as married. I did what I always did when trying to figure out something, I contacted my cousin Christer Rusén. He related through my Great Grandmother, Fredrika Samuela Rusén as her sister, Maria Evelina is his Grandmother. And as always, he was able to cofirm her marriage and also told me that some of her Grandchild were on facebook and I was able to get in touch with some of them — Pierre and Olaf Ångdal. I hope that I will be able to get in touch with the rest of the family. They are my 2nd cousins.
But that is not the only new Swedish family I was in touch with this past year. Many years ago, I had written to Mercy Abramsson, who is the daughter Dagmar Backman (the sister of my Grandfather, Gustav). Sadly, I think because I didn’t know much if any Swedish and she did not understand much English, we lost touch. That was until a little while ago when I received an email from Sweden — she had kept my letter these past 10 yrs and during a visit with her grandkids she showed them the letter I had sent all those years ago. They were surprised as they didn’t know about their Canadian family. We are 2 x cousin once removed ; and thanks to facebook, I am friends with them: Christian; Sandra & Louise Stark. There are also a couple more that I need to connect with.
There is also the fact that Pierre & Olaf are also 2 x cousin once removed of Christian; Sandra an Louise. i wonder if they know each other?
Now aside from these, I was also able to find the burial locations of many family members as well as photos, documents and places that we have lived in.
I had hoped that I could do the year without having to list a family member having passed this year, but sadly, just a few weeks ago, a distant cousin passed away. Randy Carl Every was through my Compton family line. I meet him a few years ago when I went to a family reunion. I had been corresponding with his Grandma for several years. She lived in Ontario and was a decended from the Lizzie Compton, who was the half sister of my GreatGrandfather, Charles Compton.
Also, sadly, Pierre & Olaf had lost their Mother earlier this year.
To end this year and rather long post, here are the stats of my database.
So now, I end 2018 — I hope that I have not missed anyone or anything .
May all my Family, no matter where in the world have a Happy & Healthy 2019.
This cemetery in the Rural Municipality of Rockwood was established on land donated to the St. Cyprian Anglican Parish in 1880.
In the year 2001, a stone rock monument erected in the cemetery for the pioneers of this area, who arrived here from Dundas, Ontario around 1873. It is located in Teulon, Manitoba
In this cemetery, my GGG-Grandparents, Thomas and Mary Ann (Kirby) Dicks are buried along with other other members of the Dicks family line. The following photos were taken this passed in September 2018 by my sister-in-law, Cheryl.
This is the memorial rock that was done in 2001:
THE DUNDAS CEMETERY AND SCHOOL DISTRICT
This area was settled by Campbells of Irish and Scottish decent who began arriving as early as 1873 after an arduous journey over the newly created land link through Ontario, The Dawson Creek Trail they named the area in honor of their former home in Dundas, Ontario. It was not unusual for the men of the district to walk to Winnipeg for supplies and mail, leaving their wives behind the tend their home and families.
The first Post Office to serve the local people was opened in Greenwood in 1875 but from 1879 to 1906 the Foxton Post Office located nearby on SE15-I6-2E. Dundas School District was formed April 1, 1880. In 1881 a log school was built was built NE-16-2E. It was replaced with a wooden structure on on SW14-12-2E in 1889. A new building was replaced in 1954. In 1964 the School District amalgamated and become part of the Interlake School District.
Dundas Cemetery was established in 1880 on land donated by St Cyprian Anglican Parish . It is the resting Place of many of the pioneers who created this district.
Erected in 2001 in Tribute to the Pioneers
This is many of the photos of the cemetery:
My Great Grandparents
Frederick Dicks – my GGG Uncle
GGG- Uncle Fred and his wife, Bertha Madell
The 6 yrs old daughter of my GGG Aunt Annie (Dicks) Thompson
My GGG Aunt Annie Thompson
Mother & Daughter — Annie and Bertha
And the last one shows an overview of the Dicks Family and where they are buried.
was the 4th child and first son of Walter Dicks and Caroline Beach, my GG Grandparents making him my 2nd Great Uncle. He was born on 22 FEB 1884 • Ottawa, Carleton, Ontario, Canada. At first, it was hard to find his birth record as it is transcribed as Wieser Frederick Dicks, father Walser Dicks, birth date 2 Feb 1884.
These errors are just some of the things I have found makes me that say that Walter was a bit of a man of mystery.
I don’t know much about his childhood, but there was sadness. There were 8 children born into the family but 3 died as small children — his older sister, Ester died in Dec 1894 of consumption at the age of 5; before her death his youngest brother, Gordon Milton was born in April of 1894 and passed away in July of 1894 of Canadian Cholera and then a younger brother, Silas George died of diphtheria in 1896. at the age of 6.
In one of the articles listed below it is said that he attended Kent Street School, which was apparently around for over 100 years before it was taken down. It has apparently been listed as one of Ottawa’s Lost Buildings by the Ottawa Archives.
At some point, Walter followed in his Grandfather, Thos Dicks, and became a bricklayer. And this is where some of the mystery about him comes into play. He signed up in Montreal to join the service but one of the articles says he was a Bricklayer for the last 8 years (before he joined) with the Plasters and Bricklayers of Winnipeg. Was he working with his Grandfather (who lived in Teulon, Manitoba) and travel to Montreal to join? I tried to find him in the 1911 Canada Census but was unsucessful.
Walter was older than most when he joined. The back of his papers list him as 31 yrs and 4mths. He was 5ft 5″ tall, 140 lbs, blue eyes and brown hair.
He joined the 60th Battalion and was part of the following:
He joined on the 9th of June in 1915 but his Military records say he did not go overseas until 20th of Feb 1916. And it seems he was a little bit of a bad boy as on Jan 1, 1917 per his miltary records:
After this, it looks like he worked hard and finally became a Lance Corporal. Sadly at this time, his father passed away in Ottawa. Looking at the records, it does not seem that he was able to go home. This also brings up a question on one of his records. It is written in red. Who is this person — a member of the miltary or was he a member of the Ottawa Police Department where his father had worked for all those years.
Sadly, Walter was “Killed in Action”
He was instantly killed by an enemy bomb on the night of 4th of October 1918, during and enemy air raid near Bourlen.
As per his will, he left everything to his Mom.
Walter was not shipped home for burial but is buried in Bourlon Wood Cemetery in Bourlon, Departement du Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France
was my 3rd Great Uncle through my GGG-Grandparents, Thomas Dicks and Mary Ann Kirby.
As per records, William started out as William Kirby, the son of single mother, Mary Kirby. From the http://www.knightroots.co.uk site, his baptism is recorded as:
Page 110 no 873
19 July 1846
William son of Mary KIRBY
The marriage record shows that Thomas Dicks and Mary Ann Kirby were married in August 1849 and she is listed as a spinster on the record. It was from that day forward William seems to be listed as Dicks not Kirby. So was it an adoption, legal name change or did he just assume his new father’s last name? An example is the 1861 England Census, as he is listed as a Dicks
Thomas J Dicks
There is nothing about his childhood except they continued to live in Portchester. At one point, William fell in love and married a Sarah Jane Wardle on 18 Jul 1872 in Hartford, Cheshire, England. They seemed to settle down in the area and William was working at the Hartford Train Station as a porter.
On 1 Jun 1874 in Northwich, Cheshire, their son George was born. But sadly by February, William was dead after an accident at work at end of January 1875. He was only 28 years old, leaving his young wife a widow and his son fatherless. It was around that time I believe that Thomas and Mary with their other children may have already left for Canada. In the inquest, his Aunt Ester (sister of Thomas) is mentioned.
Thanks to a lovely group of people in a facebook group called 1841 – 1939 & Beyond Genealogy Group Discussion, I was able to find out how William died at such a young age. He was killed in an accident at the Train Station he worked at. There is a newspaper that carried an account of the inquest into his accident.
The British Newspaper Archives
20 Feb 1875
It is hard to read, I guess since it is from 1875, so I will try to translated it.
Fatal Accident At Hartford Station
William Dicks who met an accident at the Hartford Station on Monday evening on 30 January necessitating in the amputation of his right leg under the circumstances reported in the Guardian on the 6th left a widow and one child to mourn his loss. An inquest was held by Mr Dunstan at Mr Morgan’s Railway Hotel in Hartford Hotel. The first witness examined was Mr Arthur Sycon, Station Master at Hartford, who said: The deceased, Mr William Dicks, was a railway porter at the Hartford Station. It was at six-o’clock on Saturday evening 30th of January, after I had given the signal for the 3:40 train from Liverpool to start, I saw the deceased in the act of lifting a box onto his shoulder. He overbalanced himself and started staggering towards the train. He let go of the box, and fell on the footboard of the last carriage but one of the train that was now in motion. He was spun around and in a few seconds he was drawn under the train between the platform and the footboard, and before any assistance could be rendered he was drawn about 25 yards by the train.
The Coroner: Could you tell if the wheels went over him?
Witness: I cannot say positively but what I heard and saw at the time, I am under the impression that his right leg was caught in the spokes of the wheel, the train left him lying between the “fourfeet” and the platform. I went to him immediately. He was quite sensible. I observed that his right leg was broken. Dr Dixson was at once sent for, and after his arrival, the deceased was removed to his own house which was near the station. On the following morning, blood was found on the horsebox which was the last vehicle of the train, and I have no doubt the wound on the deceased’s thigh was caused by that wheel.
Dr Dixson said he examined the deceased before he was removed from the station the night of the accident, and found that his right leg was smashed above the ankle. The bones were considerably broken, and he believed that there were some pieces found on the platform the following morning. He ordered the deceased removed to his house where he attended him daily. Besides the broken leg, there was a large wound on the anterior surface of the right thigh; and various bruises on the body, but they were of no importance. Amputation was performed below the right knee on the same evening. He went on pretty well the first day, but after that the delirium set in.
The Coroner: Was there any hope for his recovery from that time?
Witness: There was hope, in fact last Tuesday he was some much relieved that I had great hope for his recovery; his wounds were beginning to heal and all was going well. On Wednesday night however, there was a change for the worst. At five o’clock on Saturday morning I was sent for, and found him vomiting blood, which was the absolute cause of death.
The Coroner: Supposing you had to give a certificate for death for registration, how would you word it?
Witness: He died from a shock to the system which undoubtedly due to the accident. A vessel gave way and exhausted him.
Ester Dicks said that the deceased was her nephew and was 28 years of age as of last July. He died at half past eleven o’clock on Saturday morning last.
The Coroner summed up, the jury found a verdict of “Accidental Death”
Percy Compton was the older brother of my Grandmother, Gladys Compton Rutledge.
Percy was born on 17th of July, 1890 in Ripon, Yorkshire, England. He was the first born child/son of Charles Compton and Susannah Winter.
On 13 Mar 1911, Percy married Emma Atkinson in Ripon, Yorkshire, England.
Percy was a saddle & boot maker in the years before WWI. He and Emma had a son while she was still living with him in England. Sadly, Emma and Walter George left Percy in England and went to Canada with her Mother-in-Law and arriving on 24 Jun 1916 in Quebec, Canada.
Percy had joined the Service just a month before on May 16, 1916. He was in the Royal Regiment of Artillery. What is interesting is that he is listed as having 2 children but according to the paperwork, his daughter was born in December of 1916 — but if he joined in May, how is the possible to show her already born?
Was Emma pregnant when she left England and had Marjorie in Canada or is the date on his paperwork wrong?
This is the only photo I have of him, I received it from his Grandson, Robert Compton.
During WWI, he lost his only brothers — Harold was killed in Action in November 1916 and then Charles Duncan was killed in Action at Vimy Ridge on April 4, 1917.
I can imagine the joy in my Great-Grandparents hearts when on 03 Jun 1919 that Percy arrived home in Montreal, Quebec and then headed home to Toronto.
Once back, the small family continued to live in Ontario, but sadly Percy and Emma divorced. It is not known what happened to her but it is believed that she moved away, remarried and possibly had more children.
When the family moved to BC, Percy came along and at some point married Constance Lena Hood. My Dad referred to them as Uncle Percy and Auntie Connie. According to records, they lived not far from my Dad and his family, at 3125 Rumble Street in Burnaby, BC. The house does not exist now but was close to Boundary Road which is the divide between Vancouver and Burnaby, BC.
Uncle Percy passed away in 1948 and when I got his death registration, the date of his birth is 1898 but his headstone says 1890 as does his military papers. I was a little surprised when I read in the paperwork that it says he died in Oakalla Prison Farm !!!! Oh my God, what was he in for?? How long had he been in there?? I was shocked and didn’t know what to do.
So, I phoned my Dad. We talked for a little bit but how do you ask your Dad if his Uncle was a prisoner. So I mentioned that I had gotten the Death Registration for Percy so that I could find where he was buried. My Dad is like yes. Umm, Dad, why did he die in Oakalla? Silence then laughing my Dad says “Nothing bad” Does the registration say anything about his work? Yes, he is listed as a shoe maker. That is it — he was a shoe maker and teacher of the prisoners — teaching them how to make shoes. Nothing bad — he went home everyday, except the day he died.
The story goes that he was at work, it was lunch time. He was sitting with his workmates and when it came time to go back to work, he was dead. He had a major heart attack and no one noticed.
This is his headstone, which is located inbetween his Mom and later, his sister (my Grandma)
I don’t want to end this on a sad note so I will tell a story that my Dad told me about his Uncle Percy.
Apparently, Percy was in a Marching Band. He like to practice his instrument and his marching by walking up and down the rows of his raspberry patch in his backyard. He liked to do this on Saturday mornings.
Sounds ok, right?? Except his instrument was, ready for this one — Bagpipes!!!
I can just picture it — a grown man, former soldier, teacher, etc walking in the raspberry patch early on a Saturday morning playing the bagpipes!!!!
Anton was the 2nd son, 5th child of Johannes Snabb and Lena Forsman. He was born on the 8th of February 1903 in Björköby, Finland. He was the older brother of my Grandmother, Edit Amanda Snabb.
There is no one that can tell me about his life in Finland but on June 6th, 1927 he left for Australia. The following is the record of his leaving:
June 06, 1927
Last name: Snabb
First names: Anton
Age or age group: 24
Port of departure: Hanko
Place of destination: Sydney
State of destination: NSW
Country of destination: AUS
Price of ticket: GBP 40
Ship from Finland: Arcturus
Date of departure from Finland: 15.06.1927
Ship from England: Osterley
Date of departure from England: 25.06.1927
Ocean Line: Orient Line
Port of departure in England *
List and page 131/10
Register of Australian Finns:
Last name: Snabb
First names: Anton Lennart
Date of birth: 1903
Birth place: Raippaluoto
Birth province: Vaasan
Date of arrival to Australia: 1927
Marital status –
Address in Australia –
Occupation in Australia –
English proficiency –
Travel route / ship –
Places of residence in Australia –
Consulate’s register # 1251/17.1.1928
Consulate’s register number –
Date of Passport 1927.5.25.
Additional passport information 1 v, Raippaluoto,
SHO identification # S/m/7/6
Date of departure from Finland 10.6.1927
Route / price Hango – Sydney, Â£40
Additional ticket information Wasa
Consulate’s archive information – Information from Swedish archives
While searching on the Australia websites, I came to find a photo of his passport, which surprised me as it was not a facial photo but a full body shot —
Once arriving in Australia, all records seem to show that he moved to New South Wales, eventually settling in Coorabella near Byron Bay. The description is “Byron Bay is a coastal town in the southeastern Australian state of New South Wales.”
He applied for and received Citizinship in about 1939. Here are couple of the documents confirming this. The entire document is just over 49 pages long. On the 2nd page, is is a description of him, his life since arriving in Australia and also lists his occupation as a fruit grower.
I wonder if he filled out the Declaration form as if you read it, it lists his father as “Ganhanse” instead of the correct spelling of Johannes. Could it have been someone that spelt it as it sounded?
Also in the pages, there was a copy of the Notice that had been put in the paper:
It was in this same year that he was married to Marjorie Flodin Armstong.
It was 2 years after that, their daughter, Marjorie was born — this was the announcement in the The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW) published on May 29, 1941, but they spelt Anton’s name as Andrew:
I found an article on Anton from when he got in trouble for growing bananas without the proper permit. In December 1942, the following article was in the published in the Northern Star paper about his fine. It is also noted that he seemed to go by Andrew Snabb now but does also go by Anton at times. At least, despite the fine, he is said to have a great character.
I received the following photo from another Snabb cousin in Finland, it is Anton and his family. I don’t have a date but it would have been before his death in 1948.
Sadly, Anoton died on August 26, 1948. He is buried in Bryon Bay Cemetery. It took me several years, but then a cousin from my English side, lives in Australia and she was able to find his burial and took photos for me.
His wife, eventually remarried and it was in the past few years, I found a step-daughter on line who sadly informed me that Anton’s daughter had passed away at the young age of 29. She is buried in Mt Thompson Memorial Gardens.
My hope is to one day be in contact with her daughter.